RP CAGE GALLERY/RAT ROOM DECOR/TOYS & FUN!

Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:06 pm

Aww thats cute...yeah diesel plays with my cats toys! my cat wont play with them so i thought i'll give them to my rattie! and he loves them....

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Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:42 pm

If you choose sticks, make sure they're suitable wood, and they're not treated with pesticides. You might also want to freeze them overnight to kill off any bugs, and give them a bit of a wash.

Check out this sticky for more toy info and ideas.

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Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:39 am

I know my girls love a cardboard box filled with shredded paper etc just pop it in there cage and it keeps them busy for a while , they'll either steal the paper for bedding or go digging lol LOL

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Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:59 pm

My rats don't have many toys...in fact they only have one and they don't play with it.

They have their house, they like to peek a boo out of the holes in it, but they also have this wooden contraption that has a nut inside of it. The goal is to have them chew through the wood to get to the nut. They aren't bothered with it.

Is there any way to gauge good toys based on personality and temperment, or is it pretty much touch and go until you find something suitable?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:05 pm

It really depends on the rat - some love certain toys, some prefer others, and some prefer playing in your laundry pile! LOL

You can try things like scrunching up paper for them with a treat inside, give them piles of paper or old clothes/fabric to play in. Good toys don't have to be expensive.

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Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:20 pm

Surely not!

However they only have an enclosed 10 gallon tank presently. It only has room for their food bowl, water bottle, house and that wooden chew toy.

They really need more time out of the cage Sad

We bought them harnesses (of our own volition) so we can take them outside to a nice safe part of the apartment garden and let them play in the clover ^_^

Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:26 pm

Yup - I know you're already planning on a cage expansion so that's great. Plenty of out time. Can you let them play on the bed, sofa or bath (without water!)? Perhaps if you have a hallway that you can close all the doors to, they can run around in there? As long as they get plenty of time out (even if they're just sitting on you) then they'll be ok for now.

The only thing I'd say about the harness is that they can often wriggle out of them - so you might want to watch that, and see that they're not going to slip their leash. Also, it's worth checking here for some things to look out for if you take them outside.

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Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:44 am

I just got back from the petshop where I bought the coolest little balls. They're clear plastic, and were actually sold in the Ferret section. They're small, and clear (like I just said >_>) and have a cross shaped bit inside the ball. Between the spoke of the cross shape there is a tiny ball that bounces around between them. This ferret ball has actually been played with! Their first real play-with-able toy. It makes me happy!

I let them out today too..on the floor, wherever they wanted. Razzle played out for 0 minutes then went and hid behind the fish tank stand....Wigglesworth played out for 0 minute sthen went under the coffee table.

I hope there comes a point where they stop hiding. Rats that are sniffing in hidey holes are hard to retrieve ;_;

Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:12 pm

You can check out The Dapper Rat for cheap toy ideas. Search around that site; it's one of the best rat sites around.

For playtime, we let our rats out on the bed. We've bought lots of cheap fleece blankets (on sale at Target) as well as remnants from fabric shops. The bed is covered with those, toys distributed, and rats let loose. The gf likes to lay on the bed and let them crawl on her. Usually she reads (which means the rats chew the book/magazie); sometimes she even falls asleep with the rats crawling around and on her. Be warned: intact boys like to mark (pee on) everything, including you. Fortunately, rat pee won't give you anything a bar of soap and some water won't cure

There's a huge advantage to letting them on the bed: Their wandering space is limited, there's usually nothing for them to hide under that you can't extract them from quickly, and you can lie/sit with them and let them get used to playing with you.

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Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:57 am

I was hunting around wal-mart the other day just looking for random stuff that might make a great rat toy and an idea struck me in the fabric section.

I picked up a couple of cross-stitching hoops and some scrap fabric. The hoops are wood and cost 50 cents a piece. I went home, cut a piece of flannel about an inch wider than the hoop's circumference so the edge would overlap, pulled it through the inner hoop and around the edge, then attached the outer hoop over it and repeated on the other side.

The little binding that tightens the outer hoop is like a built-in hook holder so I didn't even need to reinforce the material or add any ribbon or chain or whatnot, just throw it on some s-hooks and add ratties! They love it because when too many of them pile in there, the open part splits apart and they just pour out of the top. Group Hug

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:52 am

Great idea! Thanks! I had tried making the openings out of cut up quaker oats boxes.... This sounds much better!

Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:38 am

Not sure if this is the right section for this, so Mods, feel free to move it if it isn't.

Anyway, I was just at the Dollar Store, because they always have SOMETHING useful for my rats/mice for super cheap. I just found these nice, heavy Terracotta bird feeders that come with clips for hanging.

They're too small to use for actual food, and the openings for the seed to come out are tiny, so I thought they would be perfect for stimulating rattie and meecie minds and making them get some exercise.

I'm going to try hanging them from the top of each level, high enough that they have to climb to get to them, and then I'll hide some healthy treats and bits of food in the holes meant for seeds. I figure it'll give them something new to do, since they'll have to work a bit to get the treats out, and the climbing will be great exercise.

I got one for the boys, one for the girls, and one for the boy meece and one for the girl meece.
The feeders look like they're awesome quality, and they were only $1.50 a piece.

I also found some small woven baskets for $.50 each. The tops are woven so that the opening is just a small hole, just big enough for a rat to get its head in and still safely get it out. For rats, I thought I could hang them and use them for hiding treats as with the feeders, and for the mice, they'll make great hiding places, chew toys, and sleeping baskets.

They had bigger baskets as well, shaped similarly, that'll be good for the rats to sleep in. Those were, I think, $1.75 each.

Just wanted to share some ideas for neat rat/mouse toys. Any sort of Dollar Store is a GREAT place to find stuff for them to play in/with. I always come away with some neat stuff when I go, and you can load up with all sorts of things and still not spend more than 20 bucks or so. hyper

I can't wait to go try all of this stuff out. I'll let you know how they like it. Mr. Green

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Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:35 pm

dose anyone have any DIY toy ideas because my rats seem bored of their
toys.
anyone?

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Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:36 am

Try boxes or larger cardboard tubes
Create a dangling treat that hangs from the bars or make a homemade hammie out of a dishcloth and some shower rings

Rats like a lot of things!

Do they have plenty of space and things to climb on and play in?

Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:21 am

	holly_rizzo wrote:
	dose anyone have any DIY toy ideas because my rats seem bored of their toys. anyone?

Read back thorugh this thread.

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Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:05 am

Well, the rats seem happy with the new cage, lots of space, but they are getting a little bored. Here's the thread about our new cage, there's a pic at the bottom...

http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20748

We just want some suggestions for toys, layout, any advice you can give that would give our ratties a little more enjoyment out of it. We're planning a hammock for sure, and already have one large igloo and two small boxes, what else?

Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:35 am

Try reading back through this thread, lots of good ideas.

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Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:04 pm

My rat girls love it when I put a little treat in a plastic easter egg. They chase it around the cage and try to get into it. Finaly they do after lots of fun. They love it!

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Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:19 pm

About the hammocks, they're so easy to make. I went to the hobby lobby and got these like about 10x10 fabric squares that were for making pillows I think. They had button hole like things on the sides and corners. Then I got some key chain rings. I looped them through the button holes and then hooked it to the cage any where. I put a picture of Maggie sleeping in one.

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Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:38 pm

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Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:22 am

I know so cute isn't she?

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Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:58 am

It was time to take the hammock (which was originally bought at Petsmart for about $7) out for washing, but I didn't want my girls to be hammock-less. I had some polar fleece lying around, and made a second hammock that my ratties love even more than the one I originally bought for them. Since I've put this hammock up, they have barely left it, and last night they even dragged all their shredded paper towels up the cage and put them in the hammock too. When washing day comes for the new hammock, I might have to make them another like this, because they like it SO much more than the store-bought one.

I wanted to use two layers of fleece, since fleece is pretty stretchy and I didn't want them to stretch the hammock out of shape too quickly. Then I remember how I've seen other hammocks with pockets, and had an idea.

I cut two squares of fleece the same size, and put metal eyelets (like this) in the corners. The eyelets hold the two layers together, and provide a reinforced hole for attaching the hammock to the cage (I just use plastic cable ties). Ratties can sleep on top of the hammock, or they can get in between the layers of fleece and have a soft warm pocket.

A packet of 12 eyelets is about $2-3, and all you need to put the hammock together is an awl or pair of scissors to make a hole, and a hammer to put the eyelets in. Even at the highest price I've seen fleece ($7/yard), that's still 3 hammocks for under $10.

Rattie approved!

Kate
(& Bella, Cissy, and Andy)

Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:39 am

I have never thought of using eyelets- great idea!! I normally just attach my hammocks(just material pieces) with safety pins, but the ratties stretch the hammocks in a day or two and they come tumbling down. I'll give the eyelets a go, once again- great idea Thumbs Up

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Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:49 am

Similar to how I make mine - I use two layers (one of fleece, one of cotton to prevent stretching by fat ratty boy bums) and I use the eyelets too. Wouldn't do to pull through the fabric with all that weight on it. Mr. Green

Normally I don't bother with pockets as my lot don't go in them, so I just running stitch the two bits of fabric together, put in the grommets, and hang it up. I did make some [url=]sketches [/url]of pocket hammocks though. But those grommets/eyelets really are good for hammock making.

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Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:30 am

I made a cute little corner one the same as all my others wiht the hobby lobby squars but I folded it in half corcer to corner and hung it in a corner of the cage look at the picture how cute huh? They love to try to see how many can fit in the middle.

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Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:51 am

Oh and at the hobby lobby it was $2 for a thing of 4 10x10 squars and 50 cents for a pack of 25 key rings.

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Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:32 pm

Mine hate there hammocks, so I took it out and put it on top of there wire cage. Yesterday they partially pulled it through, and they have a little shelter!

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Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:42 pm

My home is not set up properly to have my two rats free roam. It's pretty much an open concept and I have 7 dogs and a cat. I would love to see pictures of indoor rat playpens so I can get some idea. I will have a nice large area in the basement where me and the boys could have some out of the pen time but I need some ideas on building an enclosure where they can play safely.

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:55 pm

Cardboard works well temporarily. The small animal play pens at petsmart let rats climb out of them super easily, so they do not work.

Good luck Crossed Fingers

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Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:54 pm

Watch out for cardboard being too short as well. Ah, jumpers. Rolling Eyes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:59 am

	puppyfish wrote:
	Watch out for cardboard being too short as well. Ah, jumpers.

Any advice you can give me on how tall you feel the enclosure should be in order for them not to jump out?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:03 am

I would say anything higher than 2 feet would be okay. 2 1/2 for jumpers. Good luck!

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Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:52 am

I FINALLY got to turn my room into a rat room! I've been wanting to forever, since I had an insane amount of cages in this tiny room, a bed that took up way too much space...everything just looked awful. So my parents finally said they didn't care (I have no idea why they cared before, but eh.)
So I had to do the whole thing myself, moving furniture, cages, taking stuff apart, shampooing the carpet, scrubbing the walls and baseboards...I'm completely exhausted. Faint

It took literaly all weekend, working non-stop. I started Friday morning and got done about two hours ago. It was SO worth it though. Now everything is rat proofed, (well, almost. I still have to move some wires out of the way.) and there is a ton of open space, so I can let them out without having to worry about them getting into stuff, getting lost, getting hurt...its SO much better.

I had to move nearly all of my stuff into the attic. Puppy Dog Eyes

I really don't have that much stuff anyway. What little bit I have is now shoved into the closet, and I had to take my bed apart. I was going to sleep on the floor, but my mom had a lapse in personality and got me a foldout bed, so that's good.

Anyway, pictures!

This is what it looked like
Before:

After:

I got this awesome cage used from a pet store for 40 bucks. All it needed was a new coat of paint. hyper

Its perfect for my girls, and WAY cheaper than the Martins I was going to get.

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Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:57 am

Ooh, that looks great! I bet your guys are so happy! It is amazing that you could get such a nice, big cage for only $40!

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Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:02 am

Wow. Wish I could do something like that!

Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:41 pm

	puppyfish wrote:
	Wow. Wish I could do something like that!

Your room looks awesome! Wow how big is that cage?

Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:05 pm

The boy's cage? Its a Martin's F-450. (Ferret cage.) Its 36 x 30 x 60, I think. It holds 18 rats. Mr. Green

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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:55 am

Wow, I bet they are so happy in it!

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Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:22 am

Are those bins the permanent mouse homes? Please see here just in case.

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Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:53 am

Yeah, I saw that post a while back Kate, and now I'm in the process of switching over to tanks for them. Unfortunatly, I had JUST spent all my spare cash on new bins not long before you posted that, and sold my tanks to get the money for the bins. Faint

Its taking me a while to save the money to buy acceptable tanks. Even a 10 gallon tank with lid would add up to about 16 dollars, and I prefer at LEAST 20 gals, and I would need several of those.

I'm working on it, but in the meantime I have nothing else as far as housing goes but wire cages with really wide spacing, so they're stuck there until I save the money I need for tanks. Sad

Edit: I just re-read your orignal post on the bins, and actually, I never noticed a smell when I got them...and that's something I definitely would notice. Confused

Still, I do plan on switching just to be safe. I'm not happy with those bins for reasons other than possible dangers anyway.

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Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:54 pm

I am still looking into polycarbonate, I'll post my search links later in that thread, I'm just tired now.

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If you saw a man drowning and you could either save him or photograph the event ... what kind of film would you use?
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:14 am

Okey doke, here's the info:

Forgot to say that I love your rat room -- a tank on your desk, too! Wonderful.

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If you saw a man drowning and you could either save him or photograph the event ... what kind of film would you use?
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:07 am

Thanks, I'll have a look. And yeah, I'm super happy with the rat room...Minus the sleeping on the floor part. Faint

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Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:33 am

Do you have a problem with the rats peeing on the carpet?

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Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:24 pm

	dragynflye wrote:
	cat toys! like erin said, the little furry mice are great! my girls looooove these little plastic jacks i got at walmart for like 97 cents. and dingle balls... and feathers... and laser pointers... and chasey dangley things...and...and...and....crap! off to wallyworld to buy more toys!

Would these cat toys have to NOT be infused with catnip, cos many of them are - I don't know what CatNip does to a rat (if anything) but aren't risking buying anything for them with it on!

Also was reading Dapper Rat website (fab site) and read about his digging boxes with soil and grass in etc, is clean soil and grass OK for rats to snuff about in? I'm guessing so as they would do in the wild but just thought I'd check!

Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:05 am

I've always got non-catnip ones.

Re: digging boxes - you can either get the cat grass boxes from pet stores, or you can make your own - make sure soil is free from pesticides, fertilisers etc, and try to ensure that there are no harmful bugs. No chance taking risks (wild rats aren't exactly reknown for their long and healthy lives). You can get soils from garden centres etc that are probably more likely to be lacking harmful bacteria or parasites.

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~ Finn ~ Malachi ~ Azrael ~ Newton ~ Charlie ~

Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:29 am

I have REALLY had the fealing lately that my girls cage NEEDS to be updated. I need to replace some things, and fill some space up. The hat hamock needs to be replaced, the plastic "airborn crate" nest has to be replaced, becasue it stinks bad every day because of the paper towels and kleenex, and the wood bird stands need to be replaced. The crate I think Im gonna replace with a Cuddle-E-Cube.Im also going to add some hanging toys and cat toys, but thats how far Ive gotten. I need some serious decorating help, my ratties seem so bored in their cage! Sad

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Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:28 am

Have a read back through this thread for some great ideas.

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Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:22 pm

Hey all. I need some Ideas! We're buying a house and will be moving in very soon! There is three bedrooms two downstairs and one upstairs. The upstairs is all one big room. 24 by 48. My parents tell me that I get the big room upstairs, since they dont want to deal with stairs anymore. Anyway. That is way to big for just me! So I decided I will probably convert half of the room for just my two rats. They will have there cage still for sleeping in at night, ect. But for most of the day they will probably be free ranging in the half of the room (with acess to thier cage). My question is, what could I use to block off that half of the room? My rats arnt jumpers, so I dont think that would be a problem, and they arnt chewers either. Also, thats a lot of space for two rats! What all could I put in there for them? The only thing I can think of is boxes and tubes. But they would probably get pretty bored with that. Maybe something they can climb up? (away from the wall, or whatever I use so they cant jump over it). I'm pretty brain dead sometimes! lol. Any ideas?

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Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:02 am

I live in Canada (Winnipeg,MB) and we have a store here called PetTraders...it is a used petstore and there are soooo many good things for ratties there! You can get ladders or extra shelves for only $2...so I'd recommend looking for a used petstore in your areas. But I make sure to clean everything extra good when I buy from used places. Also check out the classified ads.

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Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:02 am

Whats your rats favorite toy/toys..??

~ pdm ~ Thunder

Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:11 am

I'm not sure you'd consider it a toy, but their favorite thing in their cage is always their cuddle cube. They've had a grand time chewing pockets in it, etc. It also makes a handy sleeping place when all the remodeling is complete.

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Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:54 pm

Mine love their hammocks and they loved these:
http://www.dapper.com.au/hammocks.htm#loft You can buy them or make your own.

Basically they love everything soft that they can sleep in. They also love Comf-E-Cubes which you can get from Petco or Petsmart, they play hide and seek in it. Mr. Green

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Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:57 am

They loved there Comf-E-cube, but it had to be thrown away, because they ripped it apart, and Eve stashed everything in it, including all of the omlet which was there New Years dinner, and I didn't feel like cleaning it out, so it went away.

Other than that they love there hammocks (well, some of them), boxes, etc.

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Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:13 am

it's not a toy... but my guys LOVE this cute log cabin thing I got at PJ's. I give them tissue paper (fresh every 2 days) and they pull it in there to nest. It's cute to watch them.

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Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:25 am

nevermind

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Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:18 pm

I've given the boys some new toys for their house. In addition to their old 'Tim-br house' I've added two Chinchilla ledges, 2 ferret tubes, ceramic tiles, a new water bottle on the bottom level a hamball in the corner for lookout/sleeping purposes, their timbr house, and a litter pan (which is used for storing food in their opinion)

ITs a lot more interesting than it was just yesterday morning..its sad, but theyre sleeping in the one spot without any toys in it..but c'est la vie. This is as much for me as for them LOL

The top picture shows how messy it is to change litter and move bags and organise boxes when you have 6 fats underfoot being buttheads. Pardon the mess ^_^

This shows the green ferret tube lifted upo to the top of the cage. I took all the other pictures with it down rest on the floor..but yes it was meant to be up top. They are dragging a paper bag halfway down theior step ramp in this pic, so dont mind it LOL

Rat blur exiting the Hamball lookout

Sharing some new tasty water! MMM water!

The cage and boys enjoying the cage, with the green tube down (and not up like its supposed to be)

Overview of clean cage, virgin from the pitter patter of rat feet

Side-ish view

Front-on view

Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:01 pm

Very cool cage , your ratties must love it , it looks fun I know how much my ratties love their tubes lol Yogie Dance Rat

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Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:33 pm

My rat (Razzle) is terrified of the tubes. He screams like a little girl when I tried to put him in it (gently) and he was just like 'OMG MOM NO THATS SCARY STOPPIT!'

So he hates them, but loves the hamball. That doesnt make sense to me, since hamballs and tubes are very similar, but whatever LOL

Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:28 pm

You could try shoving some nesting material into the tube. That might give him the idea.

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Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:25 am

Razzle doesn't nest, otherwise that would be an awesome idea. He likes being able to get out as quickly as he gets in. He might just be a bit claustrophobic?