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Goodnight, RP!

Goodnight all.

Happy 6th! At least we know RP has gone out in style, on the top of the world, and left behind a wonderful legacy.

So long, and thanks for all the rats.

Well said, Christy. RP as a resource and a testament will not go away. Even the community won't go away thanks to RatsRule and other places many of us might gather. As someone here said about RR, a co ...

You decide. Devil Rat

Oh wow, I thought you'd been here for much longer than that! Can't get away from you, either. wink

And Linda, the check's in the mail. Yup.

Andy, were you a Squeaker too? It seems like you've been here forever and I can't keep track of who was/is who half the time. LOL

But this place has been far better than Squeak ever was, and has bee ...

Just more

Christy.

What an adorable story.

My first two girls were beige hooded but one went blind long before I knew, the vet pointed it out to me. Not to worry about that, she'll do just fine.

*eep* pregnant?? : ...

Happiest Birthday, Hairy! I love that first photo especially, Amber, you look so happy together.

I'm so sorry. Sad

We all know how very much Binky meant to you. Hug

I agree with what's been said, sometimes the seemingly healthiest rats just go in an instant, and depending on the personalities of ...

Leaving your had and forearm in the cage for a long time helps quite a bit with nervous beasties. One you don't move for a while they will come over and explore, they can't resist. You'll need to do t ...

I think the base of the tail is not a bad thing since you only grab them there for a couple seconds. It also lets them know who's in charge, which can have a more calming effect on unsocialized critte ...

www.bugspray.com

I'm sorry for the loss of Kanga. What a pretty nekkid gurlie she was. Hug

I have three cages connected, and that gets changed every few weeks. It's mice for now and they get a lot more upset than rats do when I change things around, but I do it anyway to keep them on their ...

Please see the [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16483]Nutrition sticky. Thanks.

Wow, that second-to-last picture...their mother is HUGE! wink

denisemom, please [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17638]resize your images. Thanks.

Have a read back through this thread, there are tons of great treat ideas here.

I'm so sorry, Wade. Several of us here have little wild ones "that started it all" and I think we all hope they will be super mice. Holly had a wonderful life with you and her domestic mates. :hug2 ...

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i tryinn to help here Mr. Green

Monkey was NOT FAT! Yuck

Judging by your avatar, I beg to differ.
LOL

btw yesterday's news is helping a bit. yeah, npow they smeell less like old firtos and more like my brothe's old t ...

ok, did ask the vst. he said doesn;t sound good, thatmethionine was used to do the same to cat urine, gave cats bad helath. he said bring hoim list of ingreediatents but he said doesnlt sound liek a ...

I won't be seeing the vet til Tues but I plan to take the list of ingredients and ask his opinion. This is the exotics specialist, not my regular vet (though he's become my regular vet for now on the ...

I mostly agree with you, but... hey, if I could take something to make my poop smell less, I certainly would! LOL

Seriously!

I forget now which of those amino acids helps neutralize ammonia, but ...

Please see [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22625]here.

Please see [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22625]here.

Please see [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22625]here.

Please see [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22625]here.

The topic keeps popping up: can I use this or that to control the smell in the cage/room? Can I spray it, feed it to them, wash them in it, etc., etc. It's "supposed to be" safe, "is says it's" safe, ...

Interestingly enough, both Buttercup and Louie often sat "oddly." wink

My name is KATE!! You pest.

Hey at least I don't have shots of any of mine "sitting oddly." LOL

They are skanky, too, one or more are always in heat, running around like little sluts with noses up each other's rear ends. Good thing Thimble is not interested!

One girl, the darkest one, is turn ...

I think we need........PICTURES! I knew you'd be here soon. LOL

Start [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/yawningdog/74961877/in/set-626628/]here for the new girlies.

Haha, no!! So they can't hang their butts inside the dish! LOL

Let's see, it's been about two weeks. They were eating lab blocks before we got them and are now eating a modified Suebee's mix, and grits with different stuff mixed in. Very little bits of different ...

I made a topic [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22590]here so as not to hijack Celynny's cute mouse thread, espceically if her girls don't stink. Mr. Green

Continued from [url=]here.

Disgusting little bitches. LOL Thimble doesn't smell at all, never has. When he was living alone for a while after his last girls were gone, I only had to spot-clean the ...

How old are the girls? Are they poop machines? I have three new ones who very very young when I got them, just past 5 weeks, the youngest mice I've ever got (except for Thimble and he's a deerie), and ...

Hahaha!!! Love the mouse blurs! I have many many pix like that. Mr. Green

If you can avoid having them removed, please do. Once they've been having trims for a while, the teeth often realign better, leading to less frequent trimmings. Pulling rodent teeth is best not undert ...

See [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16483&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75]this page for more info on alfalfa.

It's beautiful! And Hairy is adorable.

Do you have a sympathetic vet you could ask, next time you're in for a visit? Let them know it's still on your mind and has always bothered you, and perhaps with a good description of the symptoms and ...

I think he's a bit different, he calls the anesthesia mask "the Cone of Silence." LOL

I said "rodentist" to my vet the other week and he didn't bat an eye. Mr. Green

Yes, best not to rush it because you think you "should." Just do it when you're ready. Save a bit of bedding or a favorite toy... I saved a biscuit Inigo had half-eaten and I still have it. Embarassed

LOL! Most people don't think to use water on furniture because we're conditioned to believe that wood needs to be lemon-oiled to be "fed." News flash: wood furniture is dead and does not need feeding! ...

Yes, what Andy said! Give in to the power of the Lip-Yanker and no more shall your eyes water. I learned my lesson. Mr. Green

Oh, the lip-yank!! I had a girl who did that. Until I learned to let her, I had bloody lips. Once I gave in, she was much more gentle. Then she would lick my teeth. LOL

If you have fine furniture and don't want to use a wet rag, you can get a couple of those miracle micro-fiber cloths and dust carefully. If you go slowly, the dust will stay in the cloths rather than ...

Any more photos of them? pics

I can't believe I forgot to beg for mice photos! LOL

http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14959 Martin's info and cage calculators in there.

I had read somewhere on that site that some people put it in their pets' drinking water. Bad idea, IMO. At least, not until they start disclosing all of their ingredients.

Perhaps you got some befo ...

I'm sorry, Jess, and for poor Molly too, who must be so sad. I hope a tiny stuffed toy might help. Hug

See [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22409]here. Any further replies/discussion on such topics can be made in that thread, and we'll give this one back to the mice.

I agree with Andy, and then if you let it sit for a week or so (in the garage or outside would be good), there will be no germs left.

All: Rouge went back to Petsmart and got that store to make changes in their small animal policy. Do not turn one person's thread about their mouse into a platform for your soapboxing. If you need to ...

*interjecting* Just an FYI that the citrus-stuff that was poitned out above is NOT the smae stuff as I use. The citrus stuff is a de-flea product. Shocked

I wouldn't use that on my rats. Just wan ...

I was, too -- my restaurant sneakers were the only shoes they craved! Mr. Green

I'm sorry, Christy. You did the best thing a parent can do at such a time. Hug

Old ones smell "better." LOL

What great news, both about the boys and the store! Thanks for the update!

Well, mine used to eat my restaurant sneakers when I wasn't looking and it never hurt them, so...

I would check with a few vets before buying that stuff. I can't find anything on that site about it being vet-approved, and they state that it has an added citrus scent.

Also, they don't answer con ...

Have a read back through this sticky for flooring help.

I'm so sorry.

I'm sorry, Andy. Hug

He was a lovely boy.

They usually have cold feet unless they get really active, then their tootsies warm up.

I doubt they have chemicals in. Probably vegetable flavor, since they use vegetable dyes to color them.

Have a read back through this thread for some great ideas.

Yes, at the very least, two miles away, more if possible.

When live trapping, a few things to remember:

Check the traps often, never leave a trap unchecked longer than overnight.
Never bait a t ...

see here: www.bugspray.com and go to the rats and mice section. ignore the gross stuff and concentrate on his good advice about how to get them out (live trapping) and then KEEP them out of your hose, ...

Also try Pediasure, it's a nutritionally complete liquid diet for kids and she may like the flavors.
Hug

How awfully frustrating and sad to not know what it could be. Sad

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for sweet Tsitsi and sending all good vibes!

Please contact Martin's for all technical Martin's cage questions.

see [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8295]Building/Remodeling/Geriatric/Etc.

Tambra, a bad situation was going into a hopeful situation in this thread, and you seem determined to take it back to a bad situation almost solely on the basis of semantics. Learn to know when to voi ...

Let us know how it goes. Crossed Fingers

If Oreo wouldn't accept a baby, do you have other boys who might, in case a baby or two is rejected? Ooh or you could get two, and if if Oreo prefers to be alone, the two could live together and you c ...

I'm so sorry he didn't make it, Shaz.
Hug

They will chew them and pee on them, but otherwise they're fine.

Beware if you feed them strawberries, that can cause a human heart attack when you come back to find what looks like a massacre. Mr. Green

I think we lost a lot of pix when the site crashed a little while back. Sad

I think if you have rat-squeeze concerns you should use zip ties all over. They're cheap, and easy to cut off once they're ...

Have a look through the stickies in this forum, there are links to pix and hopefully still some embedded pix as well.

Oh... I really just don't know, and don't want to give wrong advice. Sad

I think asking the vet by phone first thing in the morning would be best, there is probably a simple eye ointment you can get at ...

Awww, how sweet of his brother to help him. And the name Dirtball is cracking me up!

There's a good chance his blink reflex will come back in a couple weeks or less. Other things may not improve mu ...

It's fine to do, read back through this sticky and you'll see that.

They're just beautiful!

It's far too easy to give them junk food cos they love it so much and they're SO cute when they get it.

1 each morning and 1 each evening is plenty. More, of course, when they are sick or old.

Fat Chance!! LOL

I'm glad they're doing well.

I'm so sorry, Sondra. Sad

Miss Mousy sounds like a special girl who had a wonderful life with you. I'll ask Thimble to run on the wheel for her tonight. Hug

It's the fumes that are of concern to me. If I (ooh, I just noticed you're both from Australia, I wonder if you get another kind of bin there that we don't here) could find one that didn't stink, I'd ...

Craft and/or hardware stores for the clip things in bags of 50 - 100. Cheap.

Whether rats are older or not, and can catch themselves ro not, it's best to make/remodel a cage with safety and future geriatrics in mind.

Just go to a hardware store and choose from many different sizes of chain.

The rat cages are available in powder-coated. And Martin's will customize cages for you (no carpet, pull-out instead of drop-in, powder- or vinyl-coating, etc). Just e-mail them to ask for a certain c ...

They'll be fine as long as you stagger the levels to make sure no one falls farther than about 8 inches. See the remodeling sticky for ideas, since a tall cage is rat heaven.

If it's listed on a public list feel free to repost it.

He'll get over it (faster than you will I bet!).

I shut Crazy's entire head in the travel cage door once. Embarassed

R.O.U.S. = [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_Bride]Rodents of Unusual Size.

I also had some R.O.U.S. years ago from a (now-defunct) breeder in... Nevada, I think it was. Robbie (The Dr ...

Thanks, guys.

She got many scritches from you all, which she tolerated very well, and many yogies, which she barely touched. So, it was time, and I took Badgie in for her last visit this afternoon.

No more pota ...

I will.

I'll tell her it's from you so she doesn't get mad at me for bugging her all the time.

There she goes again. LOL

Sadly, there is only one GB left, Badger. I won't be taking many more pix of her because she has a huge tumor and it's very ugly, and to get a shot without it in the pic ...

It probably will be insanely expensive, but I'm still going to look into it just to make sure. One of these days. Soon. Really! LOL

If nothing else I need to satisfy my curiosity.

By the way, stay away from one of the world's largest plastics supplier unless you don't mind having [url=http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/uspgodowns.asp]this shoved down your throat.

Anyone: If you have the money, here's a link to a thread in the mouse forum on having polycarb (plastic) stuff custom-made:

Something from there could always be incorporated into a self-built cag ...

Okey doke, here's the info:

Forgot to say that I love your rat room -- a tank on your desk, too! Wonderful.

Well, here is what I've found as to plastics fabrication and pre-fab stuff:

The least expensive, but the largest size is only 26 x 18 x 15:
http://www.acemart.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_C ...

I am still looking into polycarbonate, I'll post my search links later in that thread, I'm just tired now.

Are those bins the permanent mouse homes? Please see [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21343]here just in case.

Something like that, though, Shaz, it's really impossible to tell. I'd lean toward it not being hereditary simply because I've heard more cases of such things (in both humans and animals) that are sit ...

How are all the babies doing now? Crossed Fingers

Cutting into a rat's ear just so you can tell who's who seems mean. Why cut your rat? Food coloring doesn't hurt.

I seriously don't know how you guys free range your rats 24/7... especially the lady who gives them run of the whole house... Don't know if you meant me, or maybe it was Celynny (I'm too lazy to look ...

They sound like little birds.

Ooh, if they're sleeping get a flashlight and go peek. Mr. Green

Try giving a yogie, then grab the rat and lay it on its back while it is (hopefully) still eating the yogie, and check the undercarriage that way.

Nothing is safe 100%, but I can understand the concerns there, especially when they're painting that stuff onto kids' teeth!

I think a hard plastic tank would still be better than the smelly plasti ...

I was just speaking with people in a couple different glass companies that also work with Plexiglas and similar non-glass materials. I was thinking about having a Plexiglas tank built for the mice. Bo ...

Interactive toys are a good idea, and also got to Petco or some such place and get a few Tuvie-szed stuffed toys. Fleece or terrycloth-like covered dog chew toys are the best, IMO. Let her choose whic ...

I'd assume free-ranging boys would be much different from free-ranging girls. I didn't find that. One set of rats was two girls and one (neutered) boy, and they pretty much acted the same, for the mos ...

Candy corn is pretty much just sugar. You can give it to them but I would only do so in small pieces and not more than once a week. It's just junk, but ratties love junk. Mr. Green

Does he always run in the same direction? If so, it's likely a problem and he needs to go to the vet. If not, he could just be... weird.

Ours were free range, especially the first two girls. The cage was in our bedroom with the doors always open (except when we left the house). They used their cage often, but were allowed to roam the a ...

Oh, that stinks! I had the same problem with the same brand I've been buying for years, two in a row were no good (this was a while back, no problems since). Mine are of the same type as yours. My onl ...

I guess I won't be giving her any kind of critter trail tubes. I don't want to have to grease her and pull her out. spit

Check here: [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14959]Cage Calculators/Sizes/Martin's

and just for fun (because we can still relate)
http://crap.jinwicked.com/?comic=60 LOL

Try the pharmacy for Pedialyte, and get the assorted-flavors freezer-pops pack. It will save you money in the long run since if they don't like one flavor, you can try another without wasting much. Ju ...

Well, Twinky is already showing those little hip rolls, I can see them in that photo. She could be Badger's double, I swear! I'm telling you, once you've seen a mouse potato in real life, you never fo ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/rat_hammie_lover05/mini-000_1466.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/rat_hammie_lover05/mini-000_1813.jpg

Um, I hate to break it to you, but...
http: ...

I bought a large (32 x 18 x 24) clear plastic Rubbermaid-like storage bin at Bed & Bath yesterday to use as a possible temporary cage. Even after washing and rinsing and drying, and airing out ove ...

I'm so sorry. I hope the babies do well with their dad and you as surrogate mom.

See the [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16483]Nutrition topic.

Did you mean this one: http://crap.jinwicked.com/?comic=247 (with rats, though the one I got was the daily and pretty funny, as usual!)

Info on Martin's here: [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14959]Cage Calculators/Sizes/Martin's

Please see [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3871]Litter & Bedding.

This has been answered in depth in the [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3871]Litter/Bedding Sticky.

It's [url=]here in the Nutrition sticky. Moved, merged, and answered.

Your post was moved/merged to the Nutrition sticky where that question has been answered before.

You two are just mad that you didn't get here first.

A forum search will turn up tons of great info on this.

It could be a case of [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21074]ball schloop.

roflmao

sorry!!! couldn't resist!

I like the tone of that last article.

I do wish they had a pal for Molly, though.

I was reading a great rat article on Wikipedia the other night: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_rat Very well ...

angelratgirl (I think it was) also conducted this survey. Read back through this litter/bedding thread to see the results.

That first shot!! Eep! OMG!!! lurve

Please read through the [url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16483]Nutrition sticky thread.

Ok, now it sounds like I've gone back to sex ed in primary school roflmao

They taught you about 'ball schloop' in primary?! Shocked

I'm so sorry. Sad

I'm so sorry he's gone. Sad

I love those last two photos of him even though he looks a bit weary in them -- he also looks so very comfy. Hug

I don't condemn you, but I think that anyone who does this needs to research it rigorously beforehand, and that includes talking to sympathetic and knowledgable vets who can tell you what to expect, w ...

It was peaceful, seemed very easy. Just unexpected.

Thanks, guys.

She died in her sleep.
http://home.comcast.net/~rodentia/LouieProfileSP.jpg

http://knockout.cwru.edu/docs/co2euthanasia.html

http://yarchive.net/med/co2_poisoning.html

http://www.rmca.org/Articles/euthanasia.htm

http://www.rmca.org/Articles/euthanasia1.htm

He looks great! Congrats on your new sweetie.

I tried looking it up online but no dice. Maybe there is a www addy on the bottle? Or a toll-free number to call just in case.

"branched out" LOL

Rufus looks very content there. Can't wait to see more pix and hear about how much happier he'll be.

Pine oil is bad for rodents. Does this cleaner contain pine oil?

Awww

It's so good that he got to go at home, though, in his sleep, happy all the way. I'm so sorry he's left you, though. Hug

Rough time of it for you lately, Lynn. Hug

Y'all are sick. LOL

post pix please
Rat Laugh

burnzy, I can't tell you how to feel, but I wonder if it might help you to be with your pet at euthanasia. I understand how upsetting it is, I've gone through it many times, but my vets are very carin ...

Put yogies in the wheel. Mr. Green

Or, tell them that under NO circumstances are they to touch the wheel or even go near it or look at it. That should work even better.

You can get an international cashier's check to mail, from a bank.

The dirt would only be a problem if it has fertilizer in it, I think.

Same way you would take care of baby rats, only I'm not sure what that is, never having done it. I think if you do a search in just this HCB forum on fostering, newborn, breeding (maybe)... any keywor ...

I'm so sorry, Rob. Hug

Yup it's safe, one person here colored her entire rat pink (I think it was) with vegetable dye/food coloring. Mr. Green

http://knockout.cwru.edu/docs/co2euthanasia.html

http://yarchive.net/med/co2_poisoning.html

http://www.rmca.org/Articles/euthanasia.htm

http://www.rmca.org/Articles/euthanasia1.htm

If your ...

I think that combining the critter habitats would be harder on you, better for the mice. Mr. Green

I agree with Wade about the wheels, though my mice do use a plastic-runged wheel since that's what they grew ...

Well, that's a relief! I cannot wait to tell my vet this story! Mr. Green

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de//person/pirate2.gif

Ohhhhhhhhh sorry! My mistake. Please accept my apologies.

I don't know what scares me more, the fact your rattie let the other do it, the fact that he is ok and "jolly" now My thoughts exactly!

I mean... "jolly"... goodness. LOL

Live and live, but th ...

Hey, wait a second. You were worried about the rats travelling with you, now you're getting mice? My mice have all travelled worse than my rats. My mice HATE travelling.

I'm trying. Mr. Green

I need a zipped-lip smiley here.

I put some Pain Relief Neosporin on his bum until then, and he's seems as jolly as ever.

What does "jolly" mean where you come from? Mr. Green

And, um, that stuff is slippery, eh? Are you sure you just ...

Wow!!

The poor little baby, how lucky for her that you found her. I guess you should watch for the usual: sneezing, watery eyes and nose, bugs. Make her some comfort food: instant oatmeal with Nutr ...

Hahaha typo!! LOL

Yes, the forum has auto-bleep.

That shirt is gorgeous. How do you make them, indelible marker?

OMG.
I am trying really hard not to laugh -- I'm sorry! The things I could say.
http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de//smileysex2.gif

Um, take them to the vet? Get his bottom looked at. I mea ...

I think the Baytril would at least begin to clear it up if it's not a tumor, but as Andy said, a different antibiotic might be in order. Hope you can see your regular vet soon, it doesn't sounds like ...

LOL that figures, he'd take it from the syringe. Mr. Green

But that's great.

I think you can add whatever you want to his water as long as it's nothing that will clog up the drinking tube, and if you chan ...

Inigo had to take that same med for CHF. He didn't want it either cos he felt so sick anyway. Strawberry milk seems to work a charm. Try some PediaSure strawberry flavor. It's a nutritionally complete ...

I'm glad the boys are doing well!

CHeck the geriatric /remodeling thread, and also consider closing off the bottom level for him at some point.

If the Neosporin is working and the mouse is acting okay now -- eating and drinking and popping okay, playing too -- then I'd say no worries. You could always try getting a second opinion by phone or ...

OMG OMG

*urk*

the poor baby!

Has he been to the vet?!

(I edited your post title, those are very graphic pix.)

[url=http://www.ratpalace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8295]Building/Remodeling/Etc.

How terrible to come home to. Keeping my fingers crossed here and sending out good wishes!

My vet charges fees based on their office criteria: an office visit is X amount, anesthesia is charged in 15-minute increments, nail or tooth clipping is the same price for a rabbit as a mouse, etc., ...

Your husband is right. Mr. Green

But I have done it many times, and if it's only a few spots, it's really not that bad. Just keep saying to yourself, "It's for the rats, for the rats..." LOL

Oh no... Riley. Cry

I'm so very sorry. Hug

Not a grinder, just a metal file like [url=http://www.cymot.com/specials/echocart/echocart/images/28%20001%20200%20Metal%20File%20Set%203Pc.jpg]this.